BB80 Vote, what vote…

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Blog Banter 80 – A Voice for All Players?

CCP Seagull ecourages you to get involved in CSM12 and put your name forward to be a Space-Politician. On his blog Neville Smit noted that CSM11 had done a good job with minimum of drama. However he said he’d not be covering CSM12 like he has in previous years as he sees no point. The power-blocs will vote on who they want and unless Steve Ronuken manages to get on CSM12 it is almost certainly going to have every seat taken by the big null-sec blocs.

Is Neville right? Is the CSM moving more and more into just a voice for 0.0? Is this a bad thing? Are the hi-sec, low-sec and WH players going to lose out badly or is it really not an issue as its the same game? Could a totally null-sec dominated CSM 12 give a balanced voice for everyone?

Banter on!

Is Neville right?
I like the way he has presented his argument, I see the conclusions he draws, he certainly has enough time in game looking into these things to comment authoritatively, but is he right?


I have been writing and erasing this piece for nearly a week. The issue is complex and I can’t seem to find a way to turn it into a concise blog sized read. It isn’t because I don’t agree with Neville, I kind of do. The problem for me is what the CSM is now and what it was meant to be, but that isn’t the question.

Is the CSM moving to just a voice of 0.0?
Yes, the representation of minority groups outside the null block mega corps has all but evaporated. As with any aligned voting system, those with the most backing always get the vote (recent world events are a testament to that).

Is that a bad thing?
I don’t think it is, Null sec players don’t always live there, they participate in all other aspects of Eve from time to time. Will they champion the needs of WH folk over their own needs? probably not, but it is disingenuous to think that they don’t understand other facets of Eve just because that isn’t their primary focus.

Can they be a balanced voice for everyone?
Probably not balanced, but I strongly suspect that Null Sec power blocks rely on other areas of Eve to provide incomes and markets and as such will service their needs.

Personally I don’t feel the need to be represented through the CSM due to my game style, my understanding is that the CSM is there to provide a conduit for the player base. Whether CCP listens or not is up to them.

The following provided a far better considered reply than my pathetic attempt:

Neville Smit – Blog Banter #80: A CSM for All?
Inner Sanctum of the Ninveah – BB80 – Voices.
The Ancient Gaming Noob – BB80 – Oh That Crazy CSM Thing
Sand Cider and Spaceships – Democracy in Action
A Missioneer in Eve – BB 80 Voices and wrappers

Morphisat’s Blog – Blog Banter 80 – Only a pawn in their game

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